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chargirlgenius ([personal profile] chargirlgenius) wrote2008-11-06 08:12 pm
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Mawwiage... is what bwings us... togevah... today

Many people have suggested a particular solution to the same-sex marriage conundrum. They would have the government recognize civil unions of everybody, and leave marriages to the church. This allows marriage to remain a religious institution, but allows everybody the exact same civil rights.

Only, I'm not really so keen on it.

You see, we were married in a civil ceremony, and that's the only ceremony we had, and likely the only one that we ever will have. I'm not any less "married" than the rest of you, and yes, I WANT to use the word "married". I'm also a religious person, and I know that in the eyes of God I am married.

Marriage is a human condition, not a religious one. Marriage is not something that only religious people have done. Marriage has always been considered a contract, and it wasn't even until the 12th century that the Catholic Church made it a sacrament. In the early Christian era, the presence of clergy was not required to make a partnership a marriage, even in the eyes of God.

I understand the idea of leaving government out of marriage, and once liked it. But it's not historically correct (at least from a Euro-centric perspective). Government has MORE business in the process of marriage than the churches. Once you were married, THEN you were subject to whatever expectations put were upon you by your church.

There's no reason to overhaul the whole system. There's no reason to make a complicated new set of laws to create a separate but equal condition. Use the laws we already have, and give people equal access and protections under those laws. Simply put, two people who love each other should have the ability to MARRY. Period, end of story.

[identity profile] chargirlgenius.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yep! I like your way. Only we ate first, because my witness had a young son who couldn't stay up too late, who came along to the judge's basement. :-D

Once upon a time, you said "I marry you" and he said "I marry you" and that's about all that had to happen.

Well, then you trade some goats or something, and all is well.

The Bible has rules about how married people act, but not about the marriage itself.

[identity profile] paquerette.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Until recently in Pennsylvania, this was still valid. Well, I don't know about the goats, but it's possible. Common law marriage did not have a time frame; you merely had to hold yourselves out as married. Then there was some court case about inheritance or something and they realised how messy that got.