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chargirlgenius ([personal profile] chargirlgenius) wrote2008-11-06 08:12 pm
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Mawwiage... is what bwings us... togevah... today

Many people have suggested a particular solution to the same-sex marriage conundrum. They would have the government recognize civil unions of everybody, and leave marriages to the church. This allows marriage to remain a religious institution, but allows everybody the exact same civil rights.

Only, I'm not really so keen on it.

You see, we were married in a civil ceremony, and that's the only ceremony we had, and likely the only one that we ever will have. I'm not any less "married" than the rest of you, and yes, I WANT to use the word "married". I'm also a religious person, and I know that in the eyes of God I am married.

Marriage is a human condition, not a religious one. Marriage is not something that only religious people have done. Marriage has always been considered a contract, and it wasn't even until the 12th century that the Catholic Church made it a sacrament. In the early Christian era, the presence of clergy was not required to make a partnership a marriage, even in the eyes of God.

I understand the idea of leaving government out of marriage, and once liked it. But it's not historically correct (at least from a Euro-centric perspective). Government has MORE business in the process of marriage than the churches. Once you were married, THEN you were subject to whatever expectations put were upon you by your church.

There's no reason to overhaul the whole system. There's no reason to make a complicated new set of laws to create a separate but equal condition. Use the laws we already have, and give people equal access and protections under those laws. Simply put, two people who love each other should have the ability to MARRY. Period, end of story.

[identity profile] mare-in-flames.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny about the "marriage as religious act" thing, because I've always seen it as a community act - marriages always seem to be something you declare before witnesses, and usually before the entire town/village/family/group. The religious aspect of it, well, yes, you're taking a vow before God, that's for sure, but I always saw that more as a natural result of the role of religion in the community - and again, marriage as community act.

But WTF do I know, I'd rather eat a live scorpion with my hands tied behind my back than ever get married. ;) Still, for the sake of my brother and everyone else who can't marry their partner because of plumbing issues, I have given it some thought....

[identity profile] chargirlgenius.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Community act - absolutely. Those are the words I was casting for, and couldn't find when I wrote the post.