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chargirlgenius ([personal profile] chargirlgenius) wrote2008-11-06 08:12 pm
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Mawwiage... is what bwings us... togevah... today

Many people have suggested a particular solution to the same-sex marriage conundrum. They would have the government recognize civil unions of everybody, and leave marriages to the church. This allows marriage to remain a religious institution, but allows everybody the exact same civil rights.

Only, I'm not really so keen on it.

You see, we were married in a civil ceremony, and that's the only ceremony we had, and likely the only one that we ever will have. I'm not any less "married" than the rest of you, and yes, I WANT to use the word "married". I'm also a religious person, and I know that in the eyes of God I am married.

Marriage is a human condition, not a religious one. Marriage is not something that only religious people have done. Marriage has always been considered a contract, and it wasn't even until the 12th century that the Catholic Church made it a sacrament. In the early Christian era, the presence of clergy was not required to make a partnership a marriage, even in the eyes of God.

I understand the idea of leaving government out of marriage, and once liked it. But it's not historically correct (at least from a Euro-centric perspective). Government has MORE business in the process of marriage than the churches. Once you were married, THEN you were subject to whatever expectations put were upon you by your church.

There's no reason to overhaul the whole system. There's no reason to make a complicated new set of laws to create a separate but equal condition. Use the laws we already have, and give people equal access and protections under those laws. Simply put, two people who love each other should have the ability to MARRY. Period, end of story.

[identity profile] syrrichard.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I know the religious right is fighting the gay marraiage thing, but I wonder if there is not also a movement among insurance companies and gov't entities. Alot of benefits acrue to people who are married through established insurance policies and tax regulations. Denying "partners" those financial breaks puts money in someone's pockets.

90% of the time, you just need to follow the money...

As for Gay Marriage in my book, it's the ssme rules as any other sexual issue-

1. Must be mutually consentual.
2. Must involve adults.
3. Must involve persons mentally capable of consent.
4. Don't do it in my lap without my consent.

Why do we try so darn hard as a culture to restrict love and enable violence? Might we not have this sdrawkcab? It's like opposing abortion and supporting the death penalty.

[identity profile] lorebubeck.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. It's like the insurance companies that pay for Viagra but not birth control pills. ARRRRGGGGG