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The third time was the charm on the sleeve pattern. I just wasn't happy with what I had, and I'm glad I tried one more version. There are still some minor issues, but I think it will look fine. In the originals, the sleeves are always really baggy and wrinkly. I can handle that. It's different for me, though. I'm the fitted sleeve lady - this is all new!

*I* tried on the gown last night. It's très sexy on me - especially without a linen shirt under the doublet. I don't know what Jeff is going to wear this weekend, because I think *I'm" wearing his clothes.

Actually, I have no idea what to wear. I'm not wearing the fur-lined gown, just too hot. I *could* pull the fur lining out - it's easily detachable - and add some wool trim to the neck and wrists, but it's still heavy wool. If I had time, I'd crank out a gown in lightweight wool for myself, but that's just not going to happen.

I did realize, thankfully, that I'm going to have some time to work on the gown during the vigil on Saturday. Thank heavens, because it's the only way that he's going to have his fur trim. I guess I'll just wear my old stuff. No biggie. He'll look great.

I'm considering bringing some stuff for the "Now and Then" display. I have a delightful plastic headdress that I made during my first 6 months in. Hee hee! I even wrote up class notes for it - if I can only find them.

I had some other things rattling about in my head to write about, but danged if I can remember what they were.

ETA: I remember one. I'm going to cartridge pleat the sleeves on. I'm excited about that - never done it before. Wheeee!

Sleeves

Jul. 8th, 2008 10:13 am
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I worked on patterning Jeff's sleeves last night. It went much slower than it ought to have. He has existing gowns, but the armholes on this one are smaller, and I need it to be pleated more in the sleeve head. Same pattern could work, eh? Well, perhaps, but I can't find it (short of ripping a current sleeve off), and I figured it's usually better to start from scratch than to modify something old.

I got through a first draft last night, but it needed slightly less pouffing, and it needed rotating so the seam landed at the elbow. However, even with the problems, and the fact that I was executing the test in a lovely aubergine poly cotton (I bought it to costume with, but luckily found a clue before I used it...) it looked fantastic. Adding the sleeve gives the gown the width and stature that it needed. It hides the problems at the shoulder with the stiffness, and I have hope that it will really make it look like something special. Whew.

Unfortunately, I only got one draft of the sleeve made last night. I tweaked the pattern, and redrew it, but I haven't had the chance to attach it or test it. Poor Jeff is going to have to take kid duty a lot this week while I crank.
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Most of my vacation was spent madly working on Jeff's gown. I did slack on the car ride home - my fingers were killing me, and I was afraid to pull out the whole thing in the car, for fear of snags. I'd also finished one task, and wasn't really feeling motivated to tackle another task. Sometimes it helps to put something down mid seam, so you can pick it up easily again, and get into a groove before you have to think.

It's looking ok. There are things that I would change, but it's too late now. I wish I'd had time to do a full proof-of-concept, but that was nigh impossible in this timeframe. That's ok. If I eventually do make him a wool one, he'll wear it much more often than the silk one, so if it looks better, that works, right? I could conceivably rip out all of the pleating and start anew, but not between now and Saturday.

Steps I've accomplished so far:


  • Sewing it all together and lining it. It's 100% hand sewn, and all raw seams are hidden
  • Lightly quilting the lining to the silk, to keep things from shifting around. It's like one layer of heavy silk, and lays a lot better.
  • Bound the neck and sleeve edges in linen. I want to finish the seams on the sleeves before attaching it, so binding seemed like an easy and streamlined way of finishing the seam.
  • I've processed the fur trim for the bottom edge of the garment. I sewed a strip of linen to the edge of the fuzzy side of the fur, then folded it over, and tacked it down with tiny stitches directly to the leather. This gives a really nice furry edge to the trim, so it will just need to go onto the garment itself with really big basting stitches. On my fur lined gown, I'd turned the leather over the linen, but doing the right-sides-together thing just worked much better.
  • Buttonhole stitched waxed silk (I forgot to take linen with me on the trip) around all around the hooks for the hook and eyes. I'd noticed that the hooks and eyes on the fur coats I ripped apart were finished similarly, and [livejournal.com profile] attack_laurel mentioned the practice on one of her jackets. It seems to help with the hooks coming undone too easily. Now, if I can get him out of it at all it will be a miracle. :-)
  • Rolled cotton batting into ropes to insert into the stuffed pleats.
  • Sewed the stuffed pleats. Each pleat has a roll of cotton batting. The original that I'm working from had a linen core, but I used cotton instead. So sue me. I then sewed each pleat around the core, and it looks like a big ladder. Each pleat doesn't completely close around the core - that might have been a bit easier, and given me a better skirt, but the original didn't either so I went with that.


Left to do:

  • Process fur strips for around the neckline and cuffs.
  • Sew on hooks and eyes.
  • cut the final hem. (and finish - maybe, if I have time)
  • Cut, sew, and attach sleeves.
  • Attach fur everywhere.


It's got a few problems. The pleating channels are *very* stiff. I think I'd use looser batting, and maybe do it in sections. The stiff panels are causing shape problems, that some different cutting in the shoulders might alleviate as well, but I really think it's the pleating.

The narrow V of the pleats is really spiff, but the side doesn't look as much like a flat panel as I'd like it too. I'm not sure if there's a good way around this.

I've noticed that the ones in images are *really* wide across the shoulder. Jeff has a ball shouldered doublet, but even with his naturally wide shoulders, it could still be wider. I have to use that as my constraint, though, as underpinnings always matter! Perhaps in the originals, the balled shoulders sat further out, giving a wider shoulder seam. That would allow the V to be pronounced, but not too narrow at the waist, allowing for the flat panel at the side that seems to be such a characteristic of this garment.

For a post with a few pictures of the garments in question, see here

Working with the hemp has proven to be hard on the fingers. I've snapped two needles on this - I've never broken a needle handsewing before.
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Posty McPostalot today…

As it happens, we’d already been tossing around the idea of a party the weekend of Jeff’s vigil and laurel elevation. We’re going to stick with that plan, and combine the Blackberry Festival with an after party. Not sure how many blackberries we’ll actually have, since the weather has been so odd, but in any case, we’ll go pick, and cook with what we’ve got. You don’t have to go to the event to come to the party. :-D

We’ll start early, so we can pick before it gets too hot. We don’t have crashers confirmed yet, but people can show up in the morning, even as early as 9 or 10. I’m not sure if we’re having feast on Saturday or not, but we may have a campfire Saturday or Sunday evening, depending on when folks are still around.

Let me know if you’d like to come, and if you need directions!
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In other news, during the La Belle weekend I managed to make good progress with Jeff’s gown. On the way there, I finished putting the test stuffing in the mock up, and tried it on him. I cut the skirt shorter, and determined that I’ll like the look better with the pleats stuffed all the way up. They’re so round and poofy, that I think that solution will work best. Even when I test pleat on my fur lined dress, they still don’t quite look that round, so I’m feeling more and more comfortable with the stuffed pleats as A solution (not THE solution thankyouverymuch).

I had a cutting snafu, but luckily it was on the hemp, not on the silk. Whew!

The stiffness of the hemp has led me to make some decisions on how to sew it together. I’d been toying with the idea of the “finish all of the seams first then sew together” method that my 16th century friends are so fond of, but I didn’t think that sewing together right sides together, and then turning each piece right side out was going to work so well. I think I will try it on the sleeves, which I’m only going to line in heavy linen. I will say this: though I love the way the hemp is looking, my fingers are killing me. Considering my time constraints, I wish I’d used linen. I might not have needed the stiffness of the hemp with the stuffed pleats. BUT, the drape and look is really lovely. It’s giving those glorious 15th century stiff folds that are ubiquitous in the art.

Sometimes it drives me a little crazy when there are several ways to go, all equally good. I’m so damned indecisive! Had I gone with heavy linen, I’d probably be wishing for the hemp. Oh well.

For construction, I lightly stitched the silk to the hemp on the front side pieces, loosely following the pattern on the fabric. It’s sort of quilting, but with only two layers instead of three. I then put *wrong sides together* (on purpose) and sewed the front pieces to the single back piece (I cut that on the fold, to save a little sewing). I stitched down the seam allowance towards the back piece, which was thus far only the hemp lining. The seam allowance was thus facing outwards. Placing the back pieces right sides together, I stitched on the silk, and when turned right side out, it covered up the seam allowance nicely.

The method was loosely based on a more modern lining technique that I’d heard of, but it worked very nicely to hide all of the seam allowances. I’m not certain what I’ll do at the other edges – it doesn’t have to look perfect since it will all be covered in fur. I’m considering just sewing a binding on.

I decided to do everything by hand. As I sat down at my machine to sew together the denim test piece and replaced my silk needle with a heavier needle, I realized that I’d have a problem with machine sewing. A silk needle would surely break when sewing the hemp. A heavier needle, appropriate for the hemp, would kill the silk.

Tonight, I’m going to lightly “quilt” the back pieces together. This not-quite-quilting will just hold everything in place better when I go to pleat it. Then I have to start focusing on getting things ready for sewing that I can do in the car. I’m NOT going to cut squirrel fur in the car, so I’m going to try to get the strips all prepped, and cut linen strips to back it with. In the car, I’ll attempt to get all of the fur backed with linen. Pleating is going to require space to lay out.

Arg. Even now, a big piece of me wishes I’d used the linen. Maybe it’d hang/pleat better, maybe it’d be easier to sew in the car, maybe…
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I started messing with the pleats again last night. On Tuesday evening, I was playing with some cotton and managed to get something that looked good. I was working to put a rolled pleat in at the waist, diminishing into a knife pleat at the shoulder. It looked decent in the cotton broadcloth incarnation, until I started trying to adjust it last night.

Meh.

There must be some sort of math that makes such a configuration possible, but even once I got them to lay fairly straight, they were still a little twisty and weird. It seemed overly complex, and overly complex rarely seems like the right answer to me. I also decided to start playing with denim instead of cotton broadcloth, considering I want to use hemp to stiffen the swishy silk. Yes. That made a BIG difference in the way things were sitting. I’m really new to using pleats.

I’m probably going to end up with a big denim test gown out of this. Jeff likes the colors. It’s currently sitting on the dummy with the light side on the left, with the somewhat twisty pleats, and the dark side on the right. There’s got to be some sort of goofy garb contest that he can wear it at… The right looks much better, since I sucked it up and tried putting the rolled pleat in all the way to the shoulder seam. Yes, MUCH better. I’d wanted to avoid having to sew that many layers together at a time (five layers per pleat), but it really does look the best. If I do that part by machine – industrial, here I come!

I have the option of putting in just a few pleats at the shoulder, and running them down to the waist in kind of a V shape. In the King René images, and a few others, the pleats go all the way across the front. Jeff seems to like that better, and though I might regret it later, so do I. It’s just a style choice; neither is more or less accurate, it seems to me.

Men’s 15th century gowns all seem pretty standard, until you start looking closer. Like I said yesterday, I don’t believe that there is only one right way.

Under the cut I have two paintings, both by Van Der Weyden, and both portraits. They’re 10 years different, and you can find many other portraits by other artists of this time period. You can find almost any many different pleating variations as portraits.

In the first, I’d say this is very obviously a plain pleated gown, probably with some sort of fur lining holding the pleats out. Always keep in mind these are not photographs.

The second is more along the lines of what I’m going for. The pleats are very strong and smooth, and all the way up to the shoulder. The cut of this gown would be different from the first. The pleating method may be different. Poor Jeff. I have yet another idea, and I’m going to have to make him yet another gown.

ExpandPaintings under the cut. )

I love this second image. The fellow looks young, slender, skinny, even. And he’s wearing this ginormous gown that completely beefs him up.

One reason that I had to mess with the pleats that seemed to be working on Tuesday is that I think I got them backwards. Look at the third image, specifically where the pleats meet the flat part on the skirt. Between that and others, it looks like the pleat rolls in towards the center, not out towards the side. Once fixed, it looks much better.

I also found an image of a fellow whose pleats are still held in place, though his belt is coming off or is off. He has only a few pleats running from the shoulder to the waist, but that is a little bit of argument for the pleat being stitched in permanently.

I’ve got to get pictures of how these different pleats look. The denim-dressed dummy is a stitch. With the pleats, you can’t even see how Jeff’s doublet fits over boobs!

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